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Basics on Character Creation and Building

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masterjedijared

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<span style="font-size: medium; ;">Alrighty, here's all I've learned so far about rolling and building decent toons in Champions.  So far I've pretty much dominated PvP and PvE with these basics in mind.  However, as more players (us and not us) come to master these basics more expanded schemes and builds will most likely evolve.</span><div><span style="font-size: medium; ;">
</span></div><div><span style="font-size: medium; ;">But!  Without further ado!</span></div><div><span style="font-size: medium; ;">
</span></div><div><span style="font-size: medium; ;">The ultimate and most basic unwritten (at least until Cryptic gets around to telling the playerbase about it....) is: </span></div><div><span style="font-family: verdana; font-size: 18px; color: rgb(0, 176, 240); ;"><span style="font-size: 16px; ;">
</span></span></div><div><span style="color: rgb(0, 176, 240); ;"><span style="font-size: medium; ;"><span style="text-decoration: underline; ;">SUPER STATS</span></span></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 18px; ;"><span style="font-size: 16px; ;">Super Stats are your two main stats.  These are characteristicly determined by your Super Stat choices at levels 5 and level 13.  Examples of these choices are Super Strength, Super Dexterity, Super Constitution, etc.  There's one choice for each of the eight stats but you can only choose two.  These Super Stats not only are a huge boost right when you select them but also level with you.</span></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 18px; ;"><span style="font-size: 16px; ;">
</span></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 18px; ;"><span style="font-size: 16px; ;">Now there's one other main assist to building up your stats.  That would be:</span></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 18px; ;"><span style="font-size: 16px; ;">
</span></span></div><div><span style="font-size: large; ;"><span style="color: rgb(0, 176, 240); ;"><span style="text-decoration: underline; ;">Talents</span></span></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 18px; ;"><span style="font-size: 16px; ;">There's two categories of Talents.  The first one is almost chosen for you if you're not careful.  This is the Innate Talent at level 1.  For most folks who pick a Framework (powerset) and just click next to get to the Character Creater screens you'll have an Innate Talent selected for you.  These auto-selects can be alright.  Typically though a player can make a better selection once they decide how they want to build the toon.  Each Framework has its own unique Innate pre-selected that isn't (as of the Open Beta...) re-selectable once you opt out of it.</span></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 18px; ;"><span style="font-size: 16px; ;">
</span></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 18px; ;"><span style="font-size: 16px; ;">"Well, Jared, how do I pick my own Innate Talent then?"  Glad you asked!</span></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 18px; ;"><span style="font-size: 16px; ;">
</span></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 18px; ;"><span style="font-size: 16px; ;">When making the toon click on Custom Framework.  Go ahead and pick an Energy Builder power and a level one regular power (no probs with picking the two from the Framework you wanted initially) and then it will ask you which Innate Talent you'd like.  These will give at least +4 or +5 to everything and up to +12 to a few selects stats.  There's quite a selection so look them over.  I'll post after this explaining the pros and cons of each Innate.</span></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 18px; ;"><span style="font-size: 16px; ;">
</span></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 18px; ;"><span style="font-size: 16px; ;">Next, you have your regular Talents.  You'll get these at levels 6, 9, 12, 15, 18 and 21 as fas as I know.  The list of normal Talents is EXTENSIVE.  These normal Talents are for fleshing out your character's stats overall and/or building up what s/he is good at.</span></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 18px; ;"><span style="font-size: 16px; ;">
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</span></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 18px; ;"><span style="font-size: 16px; ;">So, I've explained that there's two main important stats (Super Stats) and these Talent thingies.  So what?  How does this actually WORK for the character?  Well, since there's the two Super Stats, these two stats determine ALMOST EVERYTHING about your character.  It will determine most of the damage you will deal with your powers how well your buffs will work and how effective some of your pets' abilities will be too.  Some stats are better for certain things!  Strength is good for melee damage.  Presence will help your pets no matter what.  Constitution goes straight to calculating hitpoints, etc.  The game can explain all that in more or less detial.  The important part of this post is to simply explain Super Stats and how they will determine much of your character's ability and potential.</span></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 18px; ;"><span style="font-size: 16px; ;">
</span></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 18px; ;"><span style="font-size: 16px; ;">An excellent combo that at first glance wouldn't seem to roll all that well is Int/End.  Putting these two togther will make all powers cheaper to cast and you'll have more Endurance as well.  ON TOP OF THIS they will still determine damage output and all that fancy stuff.  Another personal fav of mine is Dex/Ego.  I've gotten some great Critical damage output with this and its pretty nice in PvP to have silly criticals (even on my energy builder attack XD).  I'm sure any combo can work but some will have some interesting synergy.</span></span></div>
 
<span style="color: rgb(0, 176, 240); ;"><span style="text-decoration: underline; ;">Innate Talents</span><span style="font-weight: normal; ;">:</span></span><div><span><span style="font-weight: normal; ;"></span></span><span style="color: rgb(0, 176, 240); ;"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; ;"> </span><span><span style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ;">The game has a general description of each of these so I'll just keep it simple and to the point</span></span>
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</span></div><div><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 176, 240); ;">The Heavy Hitter: </span></span><span style="color: rgb(0, 176, 240); ;">+10 Con, +10 End, +10 Str, +4 Dex, +10 Int, +4 Ego, +4 Pres, +4 Recov</span></div><div><span style="color: rgb(0, 176, 240); ;"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; ;"> </span><span><span style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ;">More Hitpoints, Enduranace, Melee damage, 'Mez' Protection and Cheaper Casting costs</span></span>
</span></div><div><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 176, 240); ;">
</span></span></div><div><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 176, 240); ;">The Untouchable: </span><span><span><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 176, 240); ;">+4 Con, +10 End, +4 Str, +10 Dex, +4 Int, +10 Ego, +4 Pres, +10 Recov</span></span></span></span></span></div><div><span style="color: rgb(0, 176, 240); ;"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; ;"> </span><span><span style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ;">More Enurance, Avoidance of enemy attacks, Critical Severity and Frequency and faster Endurance building</span></span>
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</span></span></div><div><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 176, 240); ;">The Powerhouse: </span><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 176, 240); ;">+10 Con, +10 End, +10 Str, +4 Dex, +4 Int, +4 Ego, +4 Pres, +10 Recov</span></span></span></div><div><span style="color: rgb(0, 176, 240); ;"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; ;"> </span><span><span style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ;">More hitpoints, Endurance, Melee Damage, 'Mez' Protection and faster Endurance building</span></span>
</span></div><div><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 176, 240); ;">
</span></span></div><div><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 176, 240); ;">The Intimidator: </span><span><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 176, 240); ;">+4 Con, +4 End, +10 Str, +4 Dex, +10 Int, +10 Ego, +10 Pres, +4 Recov</span></span></span></span></div><div><span style="color: rgb(0, 176, 240); ;"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; ;"> </span><span><span style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ;">More Melee Damage, Cheaper casting costs, Better Pet ability and potential</span></span>
</span></div><div><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 176, 240); ;">
</span></span></div><div><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 176, 240); ;">The Preceptor: </span><span><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 176, 240); ;">+4 Con, +4 End, +4 Str, +10 Dex, +10 Int, +10 Ego, +10 Pres, +4 Recov</span></span></span></span></div><div><span style="color: rgb(0, 176, 240); ;"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; ;"> </span><span><span style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ;">Better Avoidance, Crit frequency, Cheaper casting costs, Better Pet ability and potential</span></span>
</span></div><div><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 176, 240); ;">
</span></span></div><div><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 176, 240); ;">The Savant: </span><span><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 176, 240); ;">+4 Con, +4 End, +4 Str, +4 Dex, +10 Int, +10 Ego, +10 Pres, +10 Recov</span></span></span></span></div><div><span style="color: rgb(0, 176, 240); ;"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; ;"> </span><span><span style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ;">Cheaper Casting costs, Better Pet ability and potential, Faster Endurance building</span></span>
</span></div><div><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 176, 240); ;">
</span></span></div><div><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 176, 240); ;">The Stalwart: </span><span><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 176, 240); ;">+10 Con, +4 End, +4 Str, +10 Dex, +4 Int, +4 Ego, +10 Pres, +10 Recov</span></span></span></span></div><div><span style="color: rgb(0, 176, 240); ;"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; ;"> </span><span><span style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ;">More Melee damage, some improved 'Mez' Protection, Better Avoidance, More Crit Frequency, some better Pet ability and faster Endurance building</span></span>
</span></div><div><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 176, 240); ;">
</span></span></div><div><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 176, 240); ;">The Hard Target: </span><span><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 176, 240); ;">+10 Con, +10 End, +10 Str, +10 Dex, +4 Int, +4 Ego, +4 Pres, +4 Recov</span></span></span></span></div><div><span style="color: rgb(0, 176, 240); ;"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; ;"> </span><span><span style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ;">More Melee damage, More Endurance, Better Avoidance, More hitpoints, Higher Critical Frequency, More 'Mez' Protection</span></span>
</span></div><div><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 176, 240); ;">
</span></span></div><div><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 176, 240); ;">The Prodigy: </span><span><span><span style="color: rgb(0, 176, 240); ;">+8 Con, +6 End, +8 Str, +8 Dex, +8 Int, +8 Ego, +8 Pres, +6 Recov</span></span></span></span></div><div><span style="color: rgb(0, 176, 240); ;"><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; ;"> </span><span><span style="color: rgb(255, 255, 255); ;">This build is all around pretty decent.  Its a jack-of-all trades master of none sorta build.</span></span>
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This is from the official forums but I'm reposting this here so we don't have to dig through all the other threads
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</div><div><span style="font-family: arial; font-size: 12px; color: rgb(192, 191, 191); ;"><span style="color: rgb(255, 140, 0); ;">strength</span> <span style="color: orange; ;">(+melee damage, +lifting and throwing objects, +knockback strength, +knockback resistance, +hold breakfree)</span>
  • <li style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal arial, helvetica, sans-serif; ;">enrage's +damage buff <li style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal arial, helvetica, sans-serif; ;">invulnerability's +damage reduction
<span style="color: rgb(255, 140, 0); ;">dexterity</span> <span style="color: orange; ;">(+critical chance, +stealth)</span>
  • <li style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal arial, helvetica, sans-serif; ;">ice form's +resistance to elemental effects <li style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal arial, helvetica, sans-serif; ;">lightning reflexes' +dodge and +avoidance
<span style="color: rgb(255, 140, 0); ;">constitution</span> <span style="color: orange; ;">(+maximum health)</span>
  • <li style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal arial, helvetica, sans-serif; ;">ego form's +physical damage reduction <li style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal arial, helvetica, sans-serif; ;">defiance's +defense <li style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal arial, helvetica, sans-serif; ;">invulnerability's +further damage reduction upon taking damage
<span style="color: rgb(255, 140, 0); ;">intelligence</span> <span style="color: orange; ;">(+recharge speed, +summoned creature damage, +power cost discount, +stealth perception)</span>
  • <li style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal arial, helvetica, sans-serif; ;">none
<span style="color: rgb(255, 140, 0); ;">ego</span> <span style="color: orange; ;">(+critical severity, +hold strength, +hold severity)</span>
  • <li style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal arial, helvetica, sans-serif; ;">telekinesis' +pick up and throw strength <li style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal arial, helvetica, sans-serif; ;">personal force field's +damage absorption regeneration after it ends <li style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal arial, helvetica, sans-serif; ;">killer instinct's +energy return upon critical hit
<span style="color: rgb(255, 140, 0); ;">presence</span> <span style="color: orange; ;">(+/- threat generation depending on stance, +healing, +summoned creature health)</span>
  • <li style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal arial, helvetica, sans-serif; ;">fiery form's +elemental damage dealt (fire, ice, toxic) <li style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal arial, helvetica, sans-serif; ;">mindful reinforcement's +absorption shield and +healing <li style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal arial, helvetica, sans-serif; ;">(I don't list psionic or empathic healing because they benefit from presence's natural +healing, despite mentioning presence in their descriptions)
<span style="color: rgb(255, 140, 0); ;">recovery</span> <span style="color: orange; ;">(+energy gained from energy builders, +equilibrium)</span>
  • <li style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal arial, helvetica, sans-serif; ;">fiery form's +resistance to all elemental effects and ++fire resistance <li style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal arial, helvetica, sans-serif; ;">electric form's +resistance to all energy effects and ++electric resistance
<span style="color: rgb(255, 140, 0); ;">endurance</span><span style="color: orange; ;"> (+energy gained from energy builders, +energy max)</span>
  • <li style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal arial, helvetica, sans-serif; ;">ego weaponry/ego blade frenzy/ego annihilation/ego blade breach's +damage dealt while Id blades is active. Id blades is when you hold two ego blades which is activated from kinetic darts' advantage incisive wit, charged telekinetic eruption, ego surge, or ego form <li style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal arial, helvetica, sans-serif; ;">personal force field's +amount of damage absorbed before ending <li style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal arial, helvetica, sans-serif; ;">electric form's +energy damage dealt (electricity, sonic, particle) <li style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal arial, helvetica, sans-serif; ;">ice form's +elemental damage (fire, ice, toxic) <span style="color: red; ;">(thanks Halaster)</span> <div><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0); ;">
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Just wanted to add to the previous post that a lot of powers will also say which stats will improve them.<div>
</div><div>For example, the innate passive buff from Fire, Thermal Reverberation allows the user to drain energy from anything that is affected by Clinging Flame.  The amount of energy drained is affected by how much Presence the user has.</div>
 
A couple of things I've noticed as well that can help:<div>
</div><div>1.  Using the Hero innate template and picking appropriate selections from the bottom of the talent list up gives you more overall points than specializing your picks towards 1 or 2 stats.  (Jack of All Trades, Survival Training, etc.)</div><div>2.  Having a good distribution of stats helps overall, not making you a one-trick pony.</div><div>3.  You still get a great deal of specialization from your Super Stats, so generalizing with talents and specializing with super stats seem to work well together.</div><div>4.  Con as a super stat still rocks, though that has been diminished a bit by the increases to other stats and what they affect.</div><div>
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