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Lighthouse resigns, CoH devs tried to cover up lies to players

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Lighthouse resigns, CoH devs tried to cover up lies t...

Resignation here.

<font color="#ff0000">Theory as to why Lighthouse resigned below:</font>

<p>Very simply, Lighthouse was asked to lie to us.&nbsp; He has never comeacross as a person that would do this with a clear conscience.&nbsp;I&nbsp;greatly respect his departure from NCsoft.&nbsp; I would say that hisethical standards are too high to continue working there.</p><p>Here are the details:</p><p>He was asked to get a document from current players about how toenhance PvP in CoX.&nbsp; He did this.&nbsp; Hundreds of hours and collaborationwere put into highlighting the real issues that make PvP less popularthan it could be.</p><p>This document was submitted to Lighthouse, and he took it to thedevelopment team and management.&nbsp; Management decided to completelydisregard the entire document with the exception of one point.&nbsp; Theydecided to completely dismantle the PvP game and start from scratch tocater to a new and hopefully bigger audience.</p><p>Lighthouse posted that he understood why current players were upset,that the changes were not being made with them (us)&nbsp;in mind.&nbsp; This wasof course obvious to everyone.&nbsp; He just put words to it.</p><p>He was then instructed to immediately retract his admission.&nbsp; He wastold to say that the pvp game revamp IS being done with current playersin mind, based on our feedback.&nbsp; This was a lie, and I'm sure he knewit; so did the players.</p><p>While Lighthouse was asked to lie to us, Matt Miller posted anannouncement on the main web-site saying that indeed the current pvprevamp is meant to target new players, and that current players will beupset.</p><p>So now, Lighthouse was asked to lie to us, and his boss iscontradicting him.&nbsp; It's like I've said in other posts redpill.&nbsp; Thethings going on in CoX&nbsp;right now have probably never been seen before.&nbsp;This is very out of character for this game, and people feel veryshocked and dissappointed.</p>
 
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Actually this brings to mind what happened with (and who knows, may continue to happen with) Star Wars Galaxies.&nbsp; This was a competitive MMO from pre-WoW times that had remained strong even after the enormous record launch of WoW.&nbsp; However, we, the players, had voiced concerns even before and well after Wow about how "yeah this is Star Wars-like...&nbsp; but I wanted Star Wars."&nbsp; The devs heard these issues of players and instead of targeting methods to make it more Star Wars they decided to revamp/remake the game entirely TWICE in hopes to draw in some mythical and untapped audience whilst shafting the current players.&nbsp; Twice.&nbsp; This made many people leave the game on the first round which added in a ton of options that actually drove the playbase even further down the middle.&nbsp; The second time around they deleted folks' characters outright.

This little MMO history lesson is something that one would think that the CoX team would have learned from.&nbsp; You don't alienate the existing audience for one that may not exist.&nbsp; ESPECIALLY when your product already appeals to a relatively small niche and demographic.

Honestly, I see that if Posi doesn't get his head into this straight then it may really mean the end of this game.&nbsp; I admit, PVP sounds bizzare from all the stories filtering off of Test.&nbsp; But I can almost see this as maybe it's not ruining PVP as much as giving us a different PVP.&nbsp; Time will tell methinks.&nbsp; However, if Posi thinks this is the way to roll (frak you current subscribers, we needs them theoretical peoples!) as a method to "improve" CoH then I will say I'm glad KotOR is coming soon and that I have WAR to fall back on.

On the note of WAR, I see us ROYALLY brutalizing folks in pvp over thar&nbsp;^_^
 
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Dev's learn from someone else's mistakes? They don't even learn from their own mistakes. I guess they think that since the Marvel Comic movies are so popular that this game can be just as popular as WoW, when in reality the best they can really hope for is to be as popular as the most popular comic books. This is yet another reason to leave for Warhammer or some other MMO. Lighthouse is the only dev that I was inclinde to believe what he had to say. He often made statements that made the dev team look incompetint if you read between the lines, or pretty plaining in some posts. He came out and said he felt that Q&A wasn't doing a good enough job at one point during i12.
 
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Aye.&nbsp; I've read some of his posts and you definately can see an air of "ok guys, these assholes told me to relay some shit.&nbsp; Here it is.&nbsp; Now, sorry to say, but this is still shit.&nbsp; You're all awesome for putting up with this and *sigh* here's hoping it gets better."

I ponder if maybe Posi started catching wind of LH's mood towards things, asked him to knock it off or get moving and LH said "ok.&nbsp; laters.&nbsp; thnx for team."

Broadcast: Lighthouse: lol, that Positron is SUCH an awesome leader!&nbsp; join his team if you want to cry yourself to sleep! *logs off*

Broadcast: PVPer69Pwnerer: lolololololol ja rly loggin&nbsp;BW on&nbsp;WAR&nbsp;*logs off*

Broadcast: FwuffyRPer: ((wait, huh?&nbsp; did I miss something?&nbsp; I was RPing over tells about how blind I am to where this game is going))

Broadcast: ForumiteNaziXtreme: This game is fine.&nbsp; To prove it they've gutted the awesome shit and are getting ready to charge us $5 more a month.&nbsp; This is why I've come to love my devs.&nbsp; They really know my interests and keep them close to heart.

Broadcast: ForumiteNaziXtreme:&nbsp;Also, I must say something more since I am obviously much more knowledgable and wise if I have a higher post count.

Broadcast: ForumiteNaziXtreme: +1
 
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I've got to agree with Jared this is starting to smell like another SWG accident waiting to happen. Also, I'm probably going to head over to KOTOR when it comes out. Well good things have to end sometime I guess jezz.
 
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www.swtor.com

^ My hopeful
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FUCK YOU COH!&nbsp; FUCK!&nbsp; YOU!
 
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i just wanted to say im just biding my time in wow and coh/cov. theres only two games i plan on playing after they come out i named one already and aemon already named the other and if u dont know heres a hent

THIS IS CAPTAIN&nbsp;PEPPER KNIGHT&nbsp;OF THE USS&nbsp;TAZZMAINAN DEVIL

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Wait, they are adding $5 to our subscription cost for COH? When is that gonna happen? I'm not paying $5 more for this crap...
 
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I dont know but if or when they do wow and maybe swg may get to know me more but we will see.
 
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there's been no mention of extra costs except for folks in Seattle since NCSoft moved there.&nbsp; In balance, Austin folks don't have that anymore.&nbsp; It's just the sales tax and not an extra $5 afaik
 
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Pepper, it would be an honour to serve on your Ambassador class starship.
 
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Ah, sales tax ftl... lol

I think I'm gonna stick with COX as long as it's playable, lag and bugs getting steadily worse over time, till SW: The Old Republic Online comes out. Things look like they are gonna go down in a ball of flames, but oh well... Dev's don't seem to have a clue about what the strong points of their own product are, nor understand just how narrow the target audience for this game really is. Last I checked those are two great qualities if you are trying to fail epically. What's really sad is, back around i9, Castle seemed to actually "get it", but no more...Hum, after we see how SWTORO turns out, maybe we should beg Bioware to do a super hero game... lol

Reply to LH's last post calling rest of the staff a bunch of liars...
 
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try id be happy to have u in my fleet but 1 thing tho. This is the ambassador klass
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im an akira class man
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but im also partile to B'rel Class of the klingon impire what u guys think?
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Pepper Knight said:
im an akira class man
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I have no idea what I'm talking about when it comes to Star Trek \:
 
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well i wander now.just how manny of ower family here is gone be given the game a shot.I know i am and lanks i think u sead u were so thats 2.
 
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