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.SPiNE

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http://public.web.cern.ch/public/en/LHC/Facts-en.html

http://lhc.web.cern.ch/lhc/LHC_Experiments.htm

In short, it's a machine used to help scientists to better understand sub-atomic particles.  This will then lead to other things such as other dimensions that are "invisible" to us as well as antimatter (we'll need more than a team of 8 to tackle this AV).

The pros are, of course, we will find and prove things that are just hypotheses and theories as of now.

The cons are...well...it will create a bunch of microscopic black holes on Earth as well as strangelets (things that will eat...anything up).  However, microscopic black holes wont suck much since they are...microscopic so they wont even suck a single air molecule from Earth.  A blackhole's strength, or gravitational pull, is determined by how much mass/energy it had consumed...so microscopic black holes will theoretically shrink and disappear.  As for the strangelets...well GG! J/k, but if you're willing to read this far down then chances are you've already clicked those links and they will explain everything to you anyways.

So...the point is, PL my toon before we all die in May, which is when they will activate most of it.
 
If I know anything about quantum physics*, and I believe I do, then this picture is applicable here. Also it shows my love for you Spine

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<font size="1">disclaimer: I don't know shit about quantum physics</font>
 
Lord Tryden said:
If I know anything about quantum physics*, and I believe I do, then this picture is applicable here. Also it shows my love for you Spine

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<font size=1>disclaimer: I don't know shit about quantum physics</font>

That has nothing to do with quantum physics, since the angular movement of the planet is regulated by the Laws of Relativity not the rules of Quantum Mechanics
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A general way to make a distinction from Relativity and Quantum is to understand the size of something. Quantum mechanics generally has to do with the very small such as: atoms, quarks, etc... Where Relativity applies to the much larger such as: cars, planets, etc...

Now an interesting aside is how the laws of Quantum Mechanics and Relativity are not interchangible, particularly with how gravity and time function. This is why String Theory is such a popular theory today, because it calms down the rather chaotic nature of Quantum and allows it to interplay with the very large and Relativity scaled objects. Now, I'm not going to dare to delve into M-Theory and the such, but that's a basic break down.
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Oh, and .SPiNE the LHC's main objective is to discover the Higgs Boson Wave, which is what supposidly embues matter with mass. There is little to no hope of discovering more complex dimensions using this device, since strings operate at such a level that we could not actually observe the multitude of dimensions they can function on.
 
<font color=#ffc0cb size=2>OMG that's so hawt!

I love it when you talk physics Aemon.

In any event. To translate the picture she's wasting her time!!!!
They could be doing more productive things in bed instead of spinning. Who care about time. THe longer is takes the better!!</font>&nbsp;&nbsp;
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Ruthless Babe said:
<font color=#ffc0cb size=2>OMG that's so hawt!

I love it when you talk physics Aemon.

In any event. To translate the picture she's wasting her time!!!!
They could be doing more productive things in bed instead of spinning. Who care about time. THe longer is takes the better!!</font>&nbsp;&nbsp;
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Such as playing twister??
 
Aemon Algiz said:
Oh, and .SPiNE the LHC's main objective is to discover the Higgs Boson Wave, which is what supposidly embues matter with mass. There is little to no hope of discovering more complex dimensions using this device, since strings operate at such a level that we could not actually observe the multitude of dimensions they can function on.

No, the LHC has 6 major parts/projects to it.&nbsp; One of the parts, which is ATLAS, can be found here:&nbsp;http://public.web.cern.ch/public/en/LHC/ATLAS-en.html.&nbsp; That is what they will use to find the Higgs boson.

As for&nbsp;for the other 5 projects, they&nbsp;are: ALICE, CMS, LHCb, TOTEM, and LHCf.

ALICE's goal is to recreate the Big Bang, small scale of course.
CMS's goal is also similar to ATLAS.
LHCb's goal is to find out why we cannot find any antimatter around us even though we know, almost for certainty, that they do exist.
TOTEM's goal is to study particles, w/e.
LHCf's goal is to simulate cosmic rays, which are charged particles from space that constantly hits the upper atmosphere of the Earth already.

SPiNE's goal is to get his 47 villain to 50 before i12 comes out.&nbsp; Which is our priority right now.
 
.SPiNE said:
Aemon Algiz said:
Oh, and .SPiNE the LHC's main objective is to discover the Higgs Boson Wave, which is what supposidly embues matter with mass. There is little to no hope of discovering more complex dimensions using this device, since strings operate at such a level that we could not actually observe the multitude of dimensions they can function on.

No, the LHC has 6 major parts/projects to it.&nbsp; One of the parts, which is ATLAS, can be found here:&nbsp;http://public.web.cern.ch/public/en/LHC/ATLAS-en.html.&nbsp; That is what they will use to find the Higgs boson.

As for&nbsp;for the other 5 projects, they&nbsp;are: ALICE, CMS, LHCb, TOTEM, and LHCf.

ALICE's goal is to recreate the Big Bang, small scale of course.
CMS's goal is also similar to ATLAS.
LHCb's goal is to find out why we cannot find any antimatter around us even though we know, almost for certainty, that they do exist.
TOTEM's goal is to study particles, w/e.
LHCf's goal is to simulate cosmic rays, which are charged particles from space that constantly hits the upper atmosphere of the Earth already.

SPiNE's goal is to get his 47 villain to 50 before i12 comes out.&nbsp; Which is our priority right now.

<p>Well, in the ALICE project the recreation of the Big Bang will hopefully recreate the Higgs Boson wave,&nbsp;http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4229545.stm.

The CMS's is similar, except it wants to attempt to observe the formation of extra dimensions and&nbsp;things like supersymmetry and of course the Higgs Boson,&nbsp;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_Muon_Solenoid.

LHCb's primary goal is to observe CP Violations in the interactions with b-hadrons, also known as bottom quarks. This oberservation will allow us to calculate the interactions in regards to Anti-matter, not neccesiraly prove its existence.

TOTEM is merely an observation of the vectors, scattering, and fractive nature of sub atomic particles.

LHCf will help to observe cosmic rays, but I would put alot more hope in HARRP in being able to understand charged particles due to the large scale of manipulating the Ionosphere and the amount of cosmic rays the Ionosphere interacts with.

Now, you have to realize these are mere hopes and nothing more. When we talk about extra dimensions we're not talking about alternate realities, we're talking about mathematical spaces. Theoretically, when a string vibrates what gives the particle its properties is the deminsions that "sorround" the string. These are what we consider extra-dimensions, and therefor they are some of the smallest if not the smallest things in our universe.

Another issue with these experiments is the amount of time it took for String Theory to actually evolve into a mathematically acceptable theory, which is where most of these experiments are getting their scientific basis. One of the major issues with the original formation of string theory was the pressence of anomalies, which is when two equations that state the same property give two different solutions for the same problem. Now of course, when M-Theory was formed these anomalies had been solved, but raised even more issues for string theory. One such problem was the idea of membranes, and that our universe is a contained membrane of matter and strings. Essentially, the theory states that collision of two superbranes released enough energy for the dense collection of matter at the center (or close to the center) of the membrane to explode into the big bang.

Well, this poses the question of how energy functions not only within our membrane but outside of it aswell. If a collision outside of our membrane functions the same as it does inside of it then this is presupposing that the laws of physics contained within this membrane function the same outside of it. Because if a collision outside of membrane would still transfer energy just as a collision inside our membrane would, then this would suggest that the laws of physics are more extra-universal than we had originally supposed. This would be an absolutely phenominal discovery, because then the space outside of our universe would be similar in nature to the space inside of our universe. If this is true, then the theory that gravity escapes our membrane and seeps into the space outside of our membrane would theoretically allow us to communicate with other membranes sort of like a futuristic radio.

Now if gravity is really a force that is able to permiate the membrane of our universe does this mean that we can somehow use this to permiate the barriers of reality and control more than the just universe but the area around our universe aswell? Sort of like an antibiotic permiate the cell wall of a bacteria. This also could explain how black holes work, because if gravity is really a way to escape the boundaries of the universe and seep outside of it then black holes which are some of the most powerful gravitational sources imaginable are able to escape the membrane of our universe and essentially escape the space between two points. Although, if this is true then the membrane that is our universe is most likely two dimensional and not three dimensional. Rather than having depth it has contours similar to that of a crumpled up piece of paper, and the black hole allows matter to simply skip the two dimensional space. Now, while our universe is clearly three-dimensional and most likely more that dimension doesn't come into affect until inside the "piece of paper" and not outside of it.

This in itself is very interesting, because it would explain why our universe is three-dimensional in nature but the only kind of mathermatics that applies to it is linear mathematics and nothing planer or some other form of mathematics. By linear I mean a + b = c with the equal sign meaning a direction of movement across the equation. This is linear and contains only one direction of movement, unlike our universe which actually has multiple forms of motion. This is not entirely true with chaos equations, which can be shown to have three-dimensional motion particularly with Makavian statistics, but that has to due with calculating human probability so of course it will have multiple directions of movement. Even though this is true, why is that the only kind of equations that work with our universe have a left to right movement? Is it only because that is what we are limited to understanding or is it because our universe is actually two-dimensional?

I digress, despite this conjuecture, the culmination of all matter in the universe would also have created a super bond between the weak nuclear force, nuclear force, etc... and would have been the most powerful atomic bond possible. So, to actually accurately recreate the big bang we will also have to recreate this super bond otherwise anything we observe through the LHC will be nothing more than a good guestimate. Unfortunantly, this is the unforgiving nature of science. To observe and classify something we have to observe the situation exactly as it would have happened in nature otherwise it is nothing more than a good idea as to what happens.

Of course, this is some what how our current science works, because as I stated earlier we really have no idea outside of a few good mathematical theories of how Relativity and Quantum Mechanics interact. So, not only are we going at this problem with non-ideal equipment we are also going at this problem with only the most basic understanding of how the atomic and the large work together.

This is why I say there is very little hope of making large leaps in understanding the nature of our universe, but rather we are only openning the front page of an endless book.

I'm going back to Powerpuff Girls Z now ):

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Oh, I know extra dimensions don't mean extra space.&nbsp; Such as how the 4th dimension isn't really extra space either.&nbsp; It could be some completely crazy shit.&nbsp; Most of everything they're doing pretty much relies on hope...except the risks which are calculated to be possible.&nbsp; That's why I'm =(.&nbsp; Wouldn't they have to announce this on a larger scale since it's an international program AND it can affect the whole damn world?
 
.SPiNE said:
Oh, I know extra dimensions don't mean extra space.&nbsp; Such as how the 4th dimension isn't really extra space either.&nbsp; It could be some completely crazy shit.&nbsp; Most of everything they're doing pretty much relies on hope...except the risks which are calculated to be possible.&nbsp; That's why I'm =(.&nbsp; Wouldn't they have to announce this on a larger scale since it's an international program AND it can affect the whole damn world?

For the lulz. XD
 
.SPiNE said:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=z7yZ5LEL5es&feature=related

She so PHAILED ^^ someone reach back and smack the ho.

I couldn't listen to that, it made me hurt. Although, she should pick up a Scientific American at some point and read how Hawking's theories are being ripped apart, especially the big bang theory. One of the larger issues with the theory is, during the actual "explosion" itself matter would have to have traveled approximately 600,000,000 light years in an instant from the point of origin. Also, all matter would have been broken into base components (read as: Hydrogen).

Ugh, I don't want to debate this today. XD
 
No no no.&nbsp; You two must continue.&nbsp; I want to read more about this stuff.&nbsp; Interesting as hell imo
 
Of course it's interesting, we're all gonna die in about a month.&nbsp; What's more interesting than that?
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Lord Tryden said:
If I know anything about quantum physics*, and I believe I do, then this picture is applicable here. Also it shows my love for you Spine

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<span style="font-size: 10px; ;">disclaimer: I don't know shit about quantum physics</span>
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</div><div>Do you still love me, Tryden?</div>
 
I truly do find all of this fascinating.  Unfortunately, something about my personality forces me to do things like this:

<span style="font-size: 48px;"><span style="text-decoration: underline;">Nerds!!!!
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<span style="font-size: 16px;">Not, of course, that there's anything wrong with being a nerd.
Love you all
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