How important is Hasten for my EM/WP Stalker?

.SPiNE · Jan 23, 2008

Made him for PvP obviously =).  I'm getting Fitness and Leaping for sure since I need the maneuverability of SJ and CJ in PvP.  Then I'm planning on getting Medicine for Aid Self and either Tough or Phase Shift...so I have to drop Hasten for it.  So how important would Hasten be in this case?

If you have time, help me pick out the pools too please:

Fitness - For Stamina
Leaping - For CJ/SJ
Speed - For Hasten
Fighting - For Tough
Concealment - For Phase Shift
Medicine - For Aid Self

Dakieto · Jan 23, 2008

hasten isn't very important these days with availbility of IOs pretty easy to cap dmg and hit 80% on recharge and end red for your attacks. Unless you are trying to reduce the CD of one your secondaries not familiar with WP.

Art 0f War · Jan 23, 2008

Here is my ghetto version I made on Cohplanner.com... without the dreamy purple IO's & fitness. This build is very tight, so fitting in what is needed  was tricky and little more resistance for ice/fire dmg.  

+---------------------------------------------
+ Built with SuckerPunch's Online Planner
+ http://www.cohplanner.com
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Name: N/A
Level: 50
Archetype: Stalker
Primary: Energy Melee
Secondary: Willpower
+---------------------------------------------
01 => Hide
IO - Kismet  : Defense Buff,Endurance Cost (1)
 IO - Kismet  : Defense Buff,Endurance Cost,Attack Rate (3)
 IO - Kismet  :  7.5% ToHit (3)01 => Energy Punch
Accuracy(1)02 => High Pain Tolerance
IO - Aegis  : Damage Resistance,Endurance Cost (2)
 IO - Aegis  : Damage Resistance,Endurance Cost,Attack Rate (5)
 IO - Aegis  : 0.6 * Melee_Res_Dmg (Psionic), Res(Mez effects) (5)
 IO - Miracle  :  12.5% Recovery (15)04 => Bone Smasher
IO - Crushing Impact  : Damage,Accuracy (4)
 IO - Crushing Impact  : Damage,Endurance Cost (7)
 IO - Crushing Impact  : Damage,Attack Rate (7)
 IO - Crushing Impact  : Damage,Accuracy,Attack Rate (11)
 IO - Crushing Impact  : Damage,Endurance Cost,Accuracy (11)
 IO - Crushing Impact  : Damage,Endurance Cost,Attack Rate (48)06 => Reconstruction
Attack Rate(6)
 Attack Rate(9)
 Attack Rate(9)
 IO - Regenerative Tissue  : Heal,Endurance Cost (13)
 IO - Regenerative Tissue  : Heal,Endurance Cost,Attack Rate (13)
 IO - Regenerative Tissue  :  20% Regeneration (29)08 => Combat Jumping
IO - Luck of the Gambler  Luck of the Gambler: Defense Buff,Endurance Cost (8)
 IO - Luck of the Gambler  Luck of the Gambler: Defense Buff,Endurance Cost,Attack Rate (15)
 IO - Luck of the Gambler  Luck of the Gambler: Defense (17)
 IO - Luck of the Gambler  Luck of the Gambler:  7.5% Attack Rate (17)10 => Assassin's Strike
IO - Makos Bite  : Damage,Accuracy (10)
 IO - Makos Bite  : Damage,Endurance Cost (19)
 IO - Makos Bite  : Damage,Attack Rate (19)
 IO - Makos Bite  : Accuracy,Endurance Cost,Attack Rate (23)
 IO - Makos Bite  : Damage,Accuracy,Attack Rate,Endurance Cost (23)
 IO - Makos Bite  : 20% chance of 0.67 * Melee_Damage (Energy) (29)12 => Build Up
Attack Rate(12)
 Attack Rate(21)
 Attack Rate(21)14 => Super Jump
IO - Unbounded Leap  :  Stealth (35 feet PvE / 389 feet PvP) (14)16 => Placate
Attack Rate(16)
 Attack Rate(25)
 Attack Rate(25)18 => Stimulant
Attack Rate(18)20 => Aid Self
Interrupt Time(20)
 Interrupt Time(27)
 IO - Miracle  : Heal,Endurance Cost (27)
 IO - Miracle  : Heal,Endurance Cost,Attack Rate (46)
 IO - Miracle  : Heal (46)
 IO - Miracle  :  12.5% Recovery (46)22 => Stealth
Endurance Cost(22)24 => Indomitable Will
IO - Red Fortune  : Defense Buff,Endurance Cost (24)
 IO - Red Fortune  : Defense Buff,Attack Rate (31)
 IO - Red Fortune  : Defense Buff,Endurance Cost,Attack Rate (31)
 IO - Red Fortune  : Defense (31)26 => Energy Transfer
IO - Crushing Impact  : Damage,Accuracy (26)
 IO - Crushing Impact  : Damage,Endurance Cost (33)
 IO - Crushing Impact  : Damage,Attack Rate (33)
 IO - Crushing Impact  : Damage,Accuracy,Attack Rate (33)
 IO - Crushing Impact  : Damage,Endurance Cost,Accuracy (34)
 IO - Crushing Impact  : Damage,Endurance Cost,Attack Rate (36)28 => Heightened Senses
IO - Red Fortune  : Defense Buff,Endurance Cost (28)
 IO - Red Fortune  : Defense Buff,Attack Rate (34)
 IO - Red Fortune  : Defense Buff,Endurance Cost,Attack Rate (34)
 IO - Red Fortune  : Defense (36)30 => Fast Healing
IO - Regenerative Tissue  : Heal,Endurance Cost (30)
 IO - Regenerative Tissue  : Heal,Endurance Cost,Attack Rate (36)
 IO - Regenerative Tissue  :  20% Regeneration (37)32 => Total Focus
IO - Crushing Impact  : Damage,Accuracy (32)
 IO - Crushing Impact  : Damage,Endurance Cost (37)
 IO - Crushing Impact  : Damage,Attack Rate (37)
 IO - Crushing Impact  : Damage,Accuracy,Attack Rate (39)
 IO - Crushing Impact  : Damage,Endurance Cost,Accuracy (39)
 IO - Crushing Impact  : Damage,Endurance Cost,Attack Rate (39)35 => Invisibility
IO - Kismet  : Defense Buff,Endurance Cost (35)
 IO - Kismet  : Defense Buff,Endurance Cost,Attack Rate (40)
 IO - Kismet  :  7.5% ToHit (40)38 => Phase Shift
Attack Rate(38)
 Attack Rate(40)
 Attack Rate(42)41 => Strength of Will
Attack Rate(41)
 Attack Rate(42)
 Attack Rate(42)
 IO - Aegis  : Damage Resistance,Endurance Cost (43)
 IO - Aegis  : Damage Resistance,Endurance Cost,Attack Rate (43)
 IO - Aegis  : 0.6 * Melee_Res_Dmg (Psionic), Res(Mez effects) (43)44 => Boxing
IO - Pounding Slugfest  : Damage,Accuracy (44)
 IO - Pounding Slugfest  : Damage,Endurance Cost (45)
 IO - Pounding Slugfest  : Damage,Attack Rate (45)
 IO - Pounding Slugfest  : 2% chance of 8 * Melee_Stun (Stun) (45)47 => Tough
IO - Titanium Coating  : Damage Resistance,Endurance Cost (47)
 IO - Titanium Coating  : Damage Resistance,Attack Rate (48)
 IO - Titanium Coating  : Damage Resistance,Endurance Cost,Attack Rate (48)
 IO - Titanium Coating  : Damage Resistance (50)49 => Resurgence
Attack Rate(49)
 Attack Rate(50)
 Attack Rate(50)01 => Sprint
Empty()01 => Brawl
Empty()02 => Rest
Empty()+---------------------------------------------

Lanks · Jan 23, 2008

K so as a stalker, i figure your not really going to try to take a tanker or some bs AT with a million health.

So i made a build focusing on ranged defence, so you can go nuts on controllers, blasters, and defenders.

Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.30
http://www.honourableunited.org.uk/mhd.php

Level 50 Magic Stalker
Primary Power Set: Energy Melee
Secondary Power Set: Willpower
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Concealment
Power Pool: Speed

Villain Profile:
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Level 1:    Energy Punch   
 (A) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage: Level 30
 (3) Mako's Bite - Damage/Endurance: Level 30
 (3) Mako's Bite - Damage/Recharge: Level 30
 (5) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
 (5) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
 (17) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal): Level 30

Level 1:    Hide   
 (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 30
 (17) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 30
 (19) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Recharge: Level 30
 (48) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 30

Level 2:    High Pain Tolerance   
 (A) Healing IO: Level 30

Level 4:    Reconstruction   
 (A) Doctored Wounds - Heal: Level 30
 (19) Doctored Wounds - Recharge: Level 30
 (21) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Endurance: Level 30
 (21) Doctored Wounds - Heal/Recharge: Level 30
 (23) Doctored Wounds - Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
 (45) Miracle - Heal/Endurance/Recharge: Level 30

Level 6:    Assassin's Strike   
 (A) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage: Level 30
 (7) Mako's Bite - Damage/Endurance: Level 30
 (7) Mako's Bite - Damage/Recharge: Level 30
 (9) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
 (9) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
 (11) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal): Level 30

Level 8:    Build Up   
 (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff: Level 30
 (11) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge: Level 30
 (13) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance: Level 30
 (43) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance: Level 30
 (43) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance: Level 30
 (43) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up: Level 30

Level 10:    Mind Over Body   
 (A) Aegis - Resistance: Level 30
 (13) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance: Level 30
 (15) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge: Level 30

Level 12:    Combat Jumping   
 (A) Kismet - Accuracy +6%: Level 30
 (15) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 30

Level 14:    Super Jump   
 (A) Unbounded Leap - Jumping: Level 30
 (39) Unbounded Leap - Endurance: Level 30
 (39) Unbounded Leap - +Stealth: Level 30

Level 16:    Indomitable Will   
 (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 30
 (46) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 30
 (46) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 30
 (46) Luck of the Gambler - Endurance/Recharge: Level 30

Level 18:    Hurdle   
 (A) Jumping IO: Level 30

Level 20:    Health   
 (A) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery: Level 30
 (37) Miracle - +Recovery: Level 30

Level 22:    Stamina   
 (A) Performance Shifter - EndMod: Level 30
 (23) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Recharge: Level 30
 (37) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy: Level 30
 (37) Performance Shifter - EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge: Level 30

Level 24:    Heightened Senses   
 (A) Red Fortune - Defense: Level 30
 (25) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance: Level 30
 (25) Red Fortune - Endurance: Level 30
 (36) Red Fortune - Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
 (36) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
 (36) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge: Level 30

Level 26:    Energy Transfer   
 (A) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage: Level 30
 (27) Mako's Bite - Damage/Endurance: Level 30
 (27) Mako's Bite - Damage/Recharge: Level 30
 (29) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
 (29) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
 (31) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal): Level 30

Level 28:    Placate   
 (A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 30
 (42) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 30

Level 30:    Stealth   
 (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 30
 (31) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 30
 (31) Luck of the Gambler - Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
 (33) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 30

Level 32:    Total Focus   
 (A) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage: Level 30
 (33) Mako's Bite - Damage/Endurance: Level 30
 (33) Mako's Bite - Damage/Recharge: Level 30
 (34) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
 (34) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
 (34) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal): Level 30

Level 35:    Bone Smasher   
 (A) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage: Level 30
 (39) Mako's Bite - Damage/Endurance: Level 30
 (40) Mako's Bite - Damage/Recharge: Level 30
 (40) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
 (40) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge: Level 30
 (42) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal): Level 30

Level 38:    Invisibility   
 (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed: Level 30
 (48) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance: Level 30
 (48) Luck of the Gambler - Defense: Level 30
 (50) Luck of the Gambler - Endurance/Recharge: Level 30

Level 41:    Phase Shift   
 (A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 30
 (42) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 30

Level 44:    Hasten   
 (A) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 30
 (45) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 30
 (45) Recharge Reduction IO: Level 30

Level 47:    Super Speed   
 (A) HamiO:Microfilament Exposure

Level 49:    Strength of Will   
 (A) Aegis - Resistance: Level 30
 (50) Aegis - Resistance/Endurance: Level 30
 (50) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge: Level 30

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Level 1:    Brawl   
 (A) Empty

Level 1:    Sprint   
 (A) Endurance Reduction IO: Level 30

Level 2:    Rest   
 (A) Empty

Level 1:    Assassination   
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Set Bonus Totals:
+19.5% DamageBuff
+3.15% Defense(Fire)
+3.15% Defense(Cold)
+2.5% Defense(Melee)
+23.8% Defense(Ranged)
+2.5% Defense(AoE)
+36% Enhancement(Accuracy)
+4% Enhancement(Heal)
+47.5% Enhancement(RechargeTime)
+10% FlySpeed
+160.2 (15.8%) HitPoints
+14% JumpSpeed
+MezResist(Held) (Mag 16.5%)
+MezResist(Immobilize) (Mag 18.7%)
+MezResist(Terrorized) (Mag 2.2%)
+5% Recovery
+40% Regeneration
+2.52% Resistance(Fire)
+2.52% Resistance(Cold)
+20% RunSpeed

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.SPiNE · Jan 24, 2008

"K so as a stalker, i figure your not really going to try to take a tanker or some bs AT with a million health."

Well you figured wrong

.  Envy could take on a Granite Tank with his EM/Nin and so will I!!

Envy told me that a certain part of Assassin Strike is unresistable and that part does like 600-800 damage or something...on top of the energy and smash damage...at level 50.  So if that is true then I can time it correctly and pull off 2 or 3 AS and be able to take a Granite down.

Dakieto · Jan 24, 2008

AS does base 450 crit damage at lv 50 factor in BU and IOs you can easily hit 1100. Along with ET you can do like 1500 dmg.   If they had DP up you are talking about 2k+ hp (3k+ for brutes and tanks) so two shoting them will be hard especially a regen who will be heal up quite quickly.

Lanks · Jan 24, 2008

Your Assassin strike is unresisted, your energy transfer is not.
no. 1, you would need to hit him everytime.
no. 2, if your killing him with AS alone, he must be afk..
no. 3 , focused acc = lol defence

you could kill a SO regen with dullpain down, as long as they were AFK..
=D

Art 0f War · Jan 24, 2008

Well, if your going to scrap it out with Tanks, Scrappers go with Lanks build with MoB and fitness in for the SS & Lethal resistance.. you can go wrong without with fighting pool with boxing/kicking and tough.. then smashing & lethal protecting. Goodluck with the build and tells us how well if performs. I'm interested in making one.

.SPiNE · Jan 24, 2008

I'm hoping /WP will do well.  It's the only secondary besides Dark Armor that provides resistance.  Focused Accuracy wont do much since I'm not defense-base anyways.

Survivng would be a lot easier if I can fit both Aid Self AND Tough into my build.  However...Hasten helps my attacks recharge faster so without it I'd be doing a bit less damage.  So now it's either survivability or damage.  Then there's also Phase Shift

Lanks · Jan 24, 2008

you have around 8-10% resistance to elemental dmg, you are defence based to these types (in my build 32%)

if you get hit by a blaster with blaze, and he comes up and smacks you one with BS and TF, regeneration aint going to save you on a stalker.

your best bet would be to pop a heal, if your still under heavy dmg, pop phase, wait for heal, wait for heal to nearly come up again, then get rid of phase and continue on your way.

Tough would be nice, but mobility would be much more important, you have recon to compensate, as well as placate

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